Hank Rearden
The next couple of forging sessions I will be straightening these railroad Clips out to make punches dripts and mandrels. Click image for larger version - Name: 20160813_130515.jpg, Views: 22, Size: 542.00 KB
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Skarzs the Cave Troll
I've not had any luck hardening that stuff. 
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Hank Rearden
I'll need to do a little studying. Found a fee sites saying it something like 1060 with more maganese. Also some who claim they make good tools. If anything I'm going to play with it.

Anyone out there who made tools out of it?

http://www.rail-fastener.com/Rail-Anchor.html
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jmccustomknives
I've had some of those, and yes they are a high carbon steel.  The exact chemistry is probably listed in the RR Engineering manual like the RR spikes.

Rule #10;  "I can make that" translates to; "I'm to cheap to buy it new."

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Skarzs the Cave Troll
Odd. . . I even tried hardening in water and had no luck. I'll have to draw out a piece thin and try that.
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Hank Rearden
I've been able to find the number of accounts where blacksmiths have used this with success and others have not had much success with it at all. I did read on the railroad site for the clips that I have listed, that there were different are different types of Steel used in manufacturering over the period they've been produced. They do list them as elastic which to me means Spring Stee. So I'm going to give it a try and we'll find out what happens.
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jmccustomknives
The clip I tested sparked good, but I never did anything with it.  The other thing I always ask when trying to identify unknown steel is, "what was it used for".  In this case those clips are used for holding something together and not wear resistance.  Going by that I'd think they may be a similar alloy to the spike.

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Skarzs the Cave Troll
That's what I would guess, since, like what you said, their application is just holding things, and it would be simpler to use the same alloy(s) for hardware for the same project.
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Dominic
Yep I agree,if they are used to keep something under a lot of stress in place they would rather it bend then break,which tells me it's probably a medium or low carbon steel.But again I'm just a nube and still have lots to learn.
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Hank Rearden
Here's two YouTube videos from Rory May. aka "Dirty Smith" He goes over heat treating that may answer some of the issues we find on why smith have had success or difficulty in working with certain steels. That said he does not address rr clips or spikes. Just that some steel needs to be heated beyond critical Well check it out.

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Hank Rearden
Here's the actual work from part one..

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Skarzs the Cave Troll
Ah. Thanks.
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