SaiyoHitoKnives
Hey Everyone,
I've been learning about Japanese bladesmithing techniques for a little while now. i would like to put those to work in the next few months. any information on starting a shop would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Patrick
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jmccustomknives
Welcome aboard!  Japanese techniques are interesting.  Are you just going for patterns or the whole experience?  By that I mean, make a San Mai Tanto or make the same using Japanese steel with rice straw flux?  The latter would mean a charcoal forge for heat. 

Rule #10;  "I can make that" translates to; "I'm to cheap to buy it new."

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SaiyoHitoKnives
I'm looking to do San Mai knives and swords. With some traditional and some modern techniques. Living in Toronto would be quite difficult to have a coal Forge in my back yard so I will most likely have a gas one. I want to use iron powder as Flux as most of the modern Japanese knife makers do. I also would like to try my hand at extracting iron from ore but I know that's a lofty goal
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jmccustomknives
Just curious, what tools do you have?

Rule #10;  "I can make that" translates to; "I'm to cheap to buy it new."

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SaiyoHitoKnives
I am in the process of acquiring tools. I have a few Japanese bladesmith hammers, and I'm in the process of buying or building a spring hammer. That's about it. I need to buy or find a lot of stuff yet. I am aware that I don't need the spring hammer just yet.
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Hank Rearden
Hi Patrick,
Great discussion going on here. I have varied interest as well as some you've mentioned. Two things plaque me, focus and skill set level. You could add time to that as well.

Your question about starting a shop ask more questions. Do you have tools now? Are you already Bladesmithing/blacksmithing? Do you have issues at failure? For me, failure seems common place at the forge. That's what keeps me coming back. Mastering the skill.

I've been accumulating tools for a good 2 plus years. I believe quality tools properly used produce the best results. That increases the a better overall experience for someone testing the water. Currently I move everything out of the garage on a nice day. I do have a shop going up outback but that will be a few years before it's complete.

Differing from you on iron ore. I would like to smelt scrap iron. Around my area there's plenty of it for the taking.

"JMC Custom Knives" is very knowledgeable. I'll be reading your posts hoping to learn more.

There's so much to learn.
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jmccustomknives
Well, if I could make a suggestion that will help you in the long run.  Purchase some 1084 bar stock in a size that can be handled.  Learn how to grind your blades and heat treat them.  When you master that then move to forging the blades.  When you understand how the metal moves under the hammer then move to forge welding your San Mai. 

The reason, all your blades are going to have to be ground and heat treated.  Best to learn that first.  Forging has a lot of pitfalls and a learning curve all to its self.  If you try to forge without understanding the the basics you'll set yourself for lots of frustration.

Rule #10;  "I can make that" translates to; "I'm to cheap to buy it new."

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SaiyoHitoKnives
Answering Hank's questions. I have not started smithing yet. I have few tools that I have collected over the last few months. I have been learning the theory involved in smithing but I have yet to pick up a hammer and start. That I hope will happen in the next few months as I accumulate more and more things.I still need to build a gas Forge and find a place to use it.

Thank you jmc for the suggestions I will put those into practice when I start. I hope that Taking the last year or so to learn the theory will help me in the long run.
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Hank Rearden
Glad you're here. Ask questions and post as you learn. There's always something to learn from each other.
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SaiyoHitoKnives
Thank you for the warm welcome.
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