Hank Rearden
I'm not sure if I should pick this up or if it would be a waste of time. I'm guessing 60ft. plus of about 3/4" cable. looks like dry grease is on it. Any ideas if this would weld together?

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jmccustomknives
I can't tell how fine the wires are.  If the individual wires are large then that's a good find.  If they are fine, pass unless you just want to play.

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Hank Rearden
It has fine strands. I think I'll save my 20 bucks for something else.
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Anthony San Miguel
I see a lot of really stiff, thick stranded cable at the scrapyard. By thick stranded I mean this cable only has maybe 8-10 individual stands to make about 3/4". It looks galvanized. I figured maybe grounding cable. Does anybody know what it is and if it's anything worth getting? If it's galvanized but would make a good pattern because of the thick strands I could always burn or soak the coating off.
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jmccustomknives
Anthony, that sounds like the cable used in guard rails.  Stay away from the galvanized stuff, the fumes will make you sick.  It also messes with the weld.  The ideal wire thickness is between .040 - .070. 

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Anthony San Miguel
Okay, thanks.
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Hank Rearden
Galvanized should be avoided at all cost in my book. Something about death or sickness that bothers me most.
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charliehill
three categories of welding method: forge weld, fusion weld, brazing & soldering.
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Skarzs the Cave Troll
Anthony San Miguel wrote:
I see a lot of really stiff, thick stranded cable at the scrapyard. By thick stranded I mean this cable only has maybe 8-10 individual stands to make about 3/4". It looks galvanized. I figured maybe grounding cable. Does anybody know what it is and if it's anything worth getting? If it's galvanized but would make a good pattern because of the thick strands I could always burn or soak the coating off.

EEEEEVVIIILLLLLLLL. . .

Yes, as other people said, don't sully your forge or lungs with that stuff. 


Now, I myself have found some cable in a scrap heap not far from our house, and I'm curious what people would think of it for forging.
I don't have pictures, but this is what I can say about it: It's probably 50-75 years old, probably 1", with large strands. It's rusted to hell, but I think a lot of cable is like that and can be cleaned with good soaking heats with flux. From what I can tell of the junk around it, it may have been from an old excavator. Should I give it a go, even though it's not very thick?
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jmccustomknives
Skarzs, that cable would probably work but I'm not sure if it will pattern out well at all.

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Skarzs the Cave Troll
Guess there's no telling till it's been tried.
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Myhelmets Guide
if the wires are large than the normal size wire. then more heat is required than old heating process. heat must be just before the
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Marc
Isn't it better to try Damascus with layers of known steel? At least you get a known result.
Sure you can make out of cable or motorcycle chain. I suppose the challenge is the motivation? 
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Scrambler82
I will never, I shouldn't say never, but I do not think I will ever make a blade, just not what I envisioned for my Blacksmithing Path, but a question for those who know:

"When using Cable, that is rolled, to make anything, not just a knife, should the cable be stretched, flattened, and tightened before being put in the forge" ?

It would appear to me that heating it first would be a better path but I need info from someone who knows.

Again not that I will be doing it, it is just curiosity that killed the cat, I just need to bring in the satisfaction to bring it back !

I have seen videos that show Cable being tightened after being heated but I didn't see how it started out.

Thanks to anyone for information.


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anvil
I have made a whole one cable knife.

Altho others do it different, I had no problem forge welding it using a depression in my swage block and making sure that after each blow you rotate the cable. Rotate it in the direction that will tighten the bundle.

Do not flatten or square it until it is fully forge welded into a usable billet.

Then you are ready to make of it what you want and the bonus of a coil pattern.
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Skarzs the Cave Troll
Some people have different techniques.
I've seen some who just stack it up and tack weld it to more cable and bar and go from there. A knifemaker I know heats it up, welds the ends, and twists it tight before going further. 
Some of it has to do with the desired pattern. The tighter it is compacted the more pattern you can get, as not tightening will allow the strands to stretch and you'll get long lines.
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Scrambler82
anvil, Skarzs the Cave Troll,

Tanks for the reply and information.

I have some cable left over from a friends project and I may make something later on after getting some anvil time; may be a while but I will remember your help and ideas !

Good to have people that don't mind helping out.

Ltr

and oh ya 57 days till Christmas !  LoL !
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