JackP
Lord willing, I will be retiring this spring and plan to buy myself a retirement gift.
I've been looking for a long time at anvil pictures and videos and have fallen in love with the Refflinghaus #57 south German style anvil.

I am torn between the 275 lb and 330 lb . I like the looks of the narrower 275 but like the bragging rights of the 330.

Does anyone have any experience with either one?
I'd surly be happy with either one.

So far I'm leaning towards the saying (an anvil can't weigh too much).

While looking at videos of German blacksmiths, they seem to prove this point as all of their anvils seem to be really large.

any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks
Jack
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jmccustomknives
With anvils, go big or chase it home.  lol.  In reality, unless you've got a striker with a large sledge the heavy anvil isn't going to make much difference.  But if my budget could afford it, I'd get the bigger one.  [wink]

Rule #10;  "I can make that" translates to; "I'm to cheap to buy it new."

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Marc
Not much difference between the two, I would also go for the 330 lb if it is the only anvil.
I have a few different size anvils and the one I use the most is 280lb. I have a monster 480 lb and don't use it very much.  
Personally I like the 58 model with side shelf better.

Much that passes as idealism, is disguised hatred or disguised love of power. Bertrand Russell
 
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JackP
Thanks for the replies

I have a 140 lb Peter Wright that is a little sway backed and chipped up. The sway is very annoying when trying to use a cutting plate or a hold fast. the cutting plate springs and so does the part under the hold down allowing it to loosen. I still love the old anvil would just like something better.

Marc, I can see where the side shelf would come in handy but I can see where it could possibly get in the way.


thanks

Jack
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anvil
Yup, go big or stay home. [wink] You won't be disappointed.
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Scrambler82
Me being a new guy, and not very experienced, with Blacksmithing, I have a 162 lb PW, in decent shape; I would think any brand new anvil over 200 lbs would be a great gift to yourself.

I do not know for sure but for a home shop, not production, I would think the difference in weight of 50 lbs wouldn't make a lot of difference ! (I can hear it now) !

I too like the Refflinghaus, when I first saw one I wanted it but ended up with a PW, ($$$), that has worked just right for me and the smaller things I do, so if you are taking votes from Novice, inexperienced people, I vote for the 275 pounder, without a shelf... but only because I have never used a shelf and think I could make a Hardie to work a shelf in.

I looked on the Web at Refflinghaus Anvils... they are pricey !

JackP,
Good Luck on your choice, good luck on your retirement !

Happy New Year to all and May God Bless !
Do It Right The First Time !
GrevB
Location: SoCal, USA
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JackP
Thanks for the advice.

I really do like the narrower 275 lb # 57 better than the wider 330 and that may be the way I go.

I'm just an amature  (low ranking at that) so either one would be great.

I appreciate  and will consider your view on the subject.

Thanks again
Jack
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Skarzs the Cave Troll
If you like the 275lbs. one, why not get it? In my honest opinion, I'm not sure what the extra forty-five pounds would be used for if your debate is just over the weight. 
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JackP
I agree.
I usually use a 3 lb hammer and my 140 lb peter wright rarely ever move at all. surly one that weighs twice as much will be rock solid if properly stumped .

The problem now is that Dick Nietfeld has sold all of his anvils and says he should have more in around June or July.

I guess waiting is half the fun.

Thanks

Jack
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Scrambler82
Isn't there any other Sites that has one for sale ?


Do It Right The First Time !
GrevB
Location: SoCal, USA
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Marc
I remember negotiating with Mr Refflinghaus himself a few years back and he had a good deal including shipping directly to Australia. 
Email him, worst he can say is no.
http://www.ernst-refflinghaus.de/wir-ueber-uns.html
Much that passes as idealism, is disguised hatred or disguised love of power. Bertrand Russell
 
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JackP

Thanks Marc, I'll give that a try.

Jack
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JackP
Well, I looked at Refflinghaus site and they say Shady Grove Blacksmith Shop is their USA dealer, I doubt they you under cut him, so if I go with refflinghaus It will have to come from him.

Thanks
Jack
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JackP
I've been looking at all the anvils I can find on the net. I keep coming back to a few of them and the Rat Hole 250lb is one of them, sure is a beautiful hunk of steel.

Looking close I discovered something that makes me want to turn my head the other way. The hardy hole is  1 1/8" square. Kinda makes me sick to think that I couldn't use my 1" tools.

Other than that, it sure is a good looking anvil.

I talked to Steve on the phone and they are really nice folks.
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Scrambler82
Morning,

30 degrees here in SoCal last night, frost on the ground this AM... waiting for the sun to warm things up a bit !


Any who... just asking from a Novice's view, "can you make a workable reducing sleeve for the Hardy" ? 


I always look On-Line for "Blacksmith" stuff and find the prices associated with the word "Blacksmith" is ridiculous !

New sounds better everyday !
Do It Right The First Time !
GrevB
Location: SoCal, USA
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JackP
I thought about making a sleeve but came to the conclusion it might be better to make an (L) shaped reducer 1/8" thick rather than square 1/16" thick.

One could make it a tight fit to be driven in and out if necessary .
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Scrambler82
Being a Novice and NOT THINKING, you are right !
The corner piece will allow an easier piece to make and replace, maybe even you could make it out of a harder metal to take the abuse.

I will keep this idea in the back of my head; one of my anvils has a smaller Hardy, 3/4", and the other a 1", so with a little "L" piece I could quickly interchange the Hardie.

Thx for that one !
Do It Right The First Time !
GrevB
Location: SoCal, USA
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JackP
Well, the 275 lb #57 Refflinghaus anvil finally came through. I received it this past Friday.

It's seems to be all that I thought it would and what a pleasure to forge on. I finished the stand yesterday and used it for about 4 hrs today.

I highly recommend them.

Thanks for all the advise

Jack
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