Hank Rearden
Genius is a clue.

Solve.

11 x 11 = 4
22 x 22 = 16
33 x 33 = ? Keep the fires burning hot!
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Hank Rearden Keep the fires burning hot!
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Jacob Elmslie
36 is what i got

seems to be missing pluses between the double digits. how do you get 28?
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jmccustomknives
Tomatoes, it equals tomatoes. Rule #10;  "I can make that" translates to; "I'm to cheap to buy it new."

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Hank Rearden
A clue lies in the original question. "Solve if you are genius." So If everyone has the same answer or what is obvious it can't be the answer. They are looking for. Second it isn't a math problem. This puzzle is a sequence or pattern problem. There is math in that.

People put in additional things to draw a conclusion that fits what they changed in the problem. Don't change the problem.

Hold your hand in front of your face and count your fingers excluding your thumb. Do you see four or five fingers? I see five..

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Scrambler82
No responses since July 2015 but here is another one"  33 x 33 = 64 !

Is there an answer somewhere ?
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GrevB
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theengel
36
Or, if not smithies per se, were you otherwise trained in the metallurgic arts before straitened circumstances forced you into a life of aimless wanderin'?
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Scrambler82
theengel,
Is this proven, is there a site so I can see the work !
I am not saying anyone is right or wrong but I just want to see how they got there !
thks
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theengel
(1+1) X (1+1) = 4
(2+2) X (2+2) = 16
(3+3) X (3+3) = 36

That is, if you're following the logic of the question.  Or, you could just assume that the first two answers are wrong, and the right answer to the final question is 1089.
Or, if not smithies per se, were you otherwise trained in the metallurgic arts before straitened circumstances forced you into a life of aimless wanderin'?
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theengel
Or, the answer could be 18.
Or, if not smithies per se, were you otherwise trained in the metallurgic arts before straitened circumstances forced you into a life of aimless wanderin'?
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Scrambler82
theengel wrote:

(1+1) X (1+1) = 4
(2+2) X (2+2) = 16
(3+3) X (3+3) = 36

That is, if you're following the logic of the question.  Or, you could just assume that the first two answers are wrong, and the right answer to the final question is 1089.

Thanks...   I looked at it as accepting the first two as Truth, 11 x 11 = 4, and 22 x 22 = 16.
Assuming they were correct, the first two equations had answers that increased by four times, then the next logical step for the 33 x 33, would be to increase the next step by four... i.e. 4 x 4 = 16, 4 x 16 = 64.
Not looking at this mathematically, just plain logic.

I didn't see the "plus" signs, I know they weren't there, did they fall to the wayside !

Thanks for taking time to post.
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GrevB
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pnut
I solved if I am a genius.  I am not.
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Metalmelt
33 x 33 = 1089. The other 2 are wrong.
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Scrambler82
Metalmelt wrote:
33 x 33 = 1089. The other 2 are wrong.

Is this your answer or from a book somewhere... and if so, where ?
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GrevB
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Metalmelt
It's from my Calculator. 😃
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Marc
If we have to take the false premise of the first two equations as true, the answer should be 36. However the first two equations present a fallacy that a two or three digit number can equate to the sum of its digit. False.
So far from being a truism this is a false syllogism and equates to ask the following question:
... what is the meaning of patalaksabumba
I can infer that since the word pata means leg in spanish, laksa is an asian soup and bumba relates to mumbai in my mind, this means chicken soup Indian style.

If you change the rules, and follow your own conventions, no amount of pretend mathematical explanation can make up for it. 22x22= 484 and not 16, not on this planet. On mars on the other hand ... I don't know ... may be so? 🙂
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MrMetal
Following the logic of the first two examples, the answer is 18.
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It's not a math problem. None of the roles work the same for any of the equations. 4 times itself is 16 So 16 times itself is to 256.
Or the pattern can be 16 - 4 =12  So is it possible that 16 + 12 = 28 This could also be a solution to a pattern problem.
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MrMetal

11 x 11 = 121  The sum of the digits in 121 is 4.

22 x 22 = 484  The sum of the digits in 484 is 16.

33 x 33 = 1089  The sum of the digits in 1089 is 18.
So the answer could be 18.

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anvil
The 18 is pretty cool! I had a different solution and logic, but I think the above is correct.

Here's my original solution.
(1+1+1+1)*1=4
(2+2+2+2)*2=16
(3+3+3+3)*3=36
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Scrambler82
Well it has been a while since I posted in this Thread.

I was out on the Web, and found a video telling me how to solve this first statements of mathmatical truth !

IMHO... BS is the order of the day when it come to the explanation on the Web.

The speaker basically said, "If you can accept these statement as real... problem is "these statements" are so far off the wall that if you accept them as truth you might as well accept mine as real and the answer goes back to 64 !

What is poi's down to is a statement Mark made... kept the method you want and you get the answer you want !

Funny, no answer to this Puzzle is wrong !  I don't accept that but I've been wrong before !

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GrevB
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Anonymous
This made the rounds on Linkedin.  I couldn't believe the types of logic people applied. Truly a pattern problem from one of those IQ test. At least it looks that way that me.
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Scrambler82
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This made the rounds on Linkedin.  I couldn't believe the types of logic people applied. Truly a pattern problem from one of those IQ test. At least it looks that way that me.

I forgot it was even here until I ran across it on the web, funny all the sh!t out there.
Once I watched the video I understand why they say it is geniuses only but to me the logic is no better than what I applied to get the answer of 64.

Why they even attempt to explain it in the manner they do, I know of no one that would even look at it in that way.

When you have an equation, you can't break it down to what you want, there are laws that need to be maintained, and they even disregard a 9 (100) amount which equals 900 and they call it 9 instead and forget about the 891 in the rest of their calculation.

So IMHO... this is a joke more than it is anything else.

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Metalmelt
It is kind of a joke. They left out a couple very important words in the problem.
"IF" 11 X 11 = 4
"AND" 22 X 22 = 16
"THEN" 33 X 33 + ??

Makes a world of difference. Without conditions, the first two are just wrong.
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Ferrous Beuler
Super genius that I am, I arrive at 36.
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Scrambler82
Metalmelt wrote:
It is kind of a joke. They left out a couple very important words in the problem.
"IF" 11 X 11 = 4
"AND" 22 X 22 = 16
"THEN" 33 X 33 + ??

Makes a world of difference. Without conditions, the first two are just wrong.

The first two equations are totally off, SO... you need to just accept them are true and that in turn sets the rules.
How anyone can accept 11 x 11 as 1+1 x 1+1, no brackets, not standard rules.
IF we accept the 1+1 x 1+1 as true, then the multiplication should be done first, 1 x 1 equals 1, so you have 1 + 1 + 1 = 3.

I can understand how they arrived at what they determined to be the correct answer, but they don't follow rules, so my idea and your idea are all true and are the correct answer.

As I said above, I would consider this more than a JOKE, and has no relativeness to anything !

OK I'm done this time !
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Galt's Glutch Forge
This problem you showed up on my Facebook feed. As I thought I would put the answer I got and how I can't do it. 1st I started out with what was true and added nothing to the Puzzle This isn't a math problem and I didn't add or multiply or divide anything that would alter what is seen.
What is true is 11 × 11 = 4 followed by 22 × 22 equal 16. The difference between 11 and 22 is 11. It went up plus 1 The same with 22 and 33. The differences 11 and it went up plus 1.

4 + 11 is 15 and it went up plus 1

Therefore 22 to 33 is 11 Every girl from 16 to 27 + 1 you get 28.

Or you simplify the pattern by saying the multiplication side went up by 11 each time and the answer side went up by 12 each time.

That's not to say there is another ways for the puzzle to be interpreted.
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